World Map Discussion

[Rolina]

From what i see, a mountain path is a good way to do it. A mountain path will require a cave in it so I'm not sure why you consider them as two units rather than one.

A small cave would help for keeping out of the rain on bad weather days. (Water is near this area, so think of evaperation, condensation, and precipitation.) For example, maybe we can have a bear cave so that the bear can hibernate.. etc.

I think it should be mostly mountainous, though.

Edit: Probably a one-way trail of no return? (Either a slide, a gate defining the border, or something.)

By your logic, street roads and highways don't exist in the real world.  They're all done via underground tunnels, that way rain doesn't fall on them!

...oh right, they're not.  Hey, when you come up with how we're going to bore a tunnel through an entire mountain range, let me know, I'll be sure to tell you if that's actually feasible or not!

Caves make no sense for something of this scale.

[MaxiPower]

From what i see, a mountain path is a good way to do it. A mountain path will require a cave in it so I'm not sure why you consider them as two units rather than one.

A small cave would help for keeping out of the rain on bad weather days. (Water is near this area, so think of evaperation, condensation, and precipitation.) For example, maybe we can have a bear cave so that the bear can hibernate.. etc.

I think it should be mostly mountainous, though.

Edit: Probably a one-way trail of no return? (Either a slide, a gate defining the border, or something.)

By your logic, street roads and highways don't exist in the real world.  They're all done via underground tunnels, that way rain doesn't fall on them!

...oh right, they're not.  Hey, when you come up with how we're going to bore a tunnel through an entire mountain range, let me know, I'll be sure to tell you if that's actually feasible or not!

Caves make no sense for something of this scale.

So we looking something like Kimbobo (sp) trail Role?

all pathway, exterior

or Dekhan Plateau

Mostly exterior with few interior locals with puzzels?

[Teawater]

bore a tunnel through an entire mountain range

I was thinking more like a small hideout. with only one door. Nothing that is required going into. There are a couple places like that in Golden Sun, right?

In other words, the whole trail would be on the exterior.

Edit:

Mostly exterior with few interior locals with puzzels?

That's pretty much what I had in mind...

By the way, what size is this mountainous map expected to be?

[MaxiPower]

Simply best keep to the size of a current one, if can be really. plenty of ideas and concepts to source directly from the last games.. TLA puzzels were the right length so its a good basis.

[dwkjohn]

here is what I will be adding to the map soon.

@teawater: that is about the size of the mountain range.

@Role: I think that teawater is talking about something like the cave at the crossing between Gondowan and Indra. only a little bigger.

[Griever]

If I'm correct, Role wants to connect the two continents in a similar way to how we reach Mercury lighthouse. I'm referring to the cave that we had to go through .... is this what really wanted Role?

@john: oh i see, thanks for the info .. hopefully i can help with the maps >_<

[Teawater]

here is what I will be adding to the map soon.

@teawater: that is about the size of the mountain range.

 Cool. And this is near the beginning of the game.  I imagine it would take some time to travel through that. Not much puzzling you can do without much psynergy available, right?  I imagine this would be a nice place to put some things where you would have to come back later in the game to get.  By the way, when I asked for an estimate size of the mountainous map(s), I actually wanted the sizes of those rooms and not the size of it on the world map.

@Role: I think that teawater is talking about something like the cave at the crossing between Gondowan and Indra. only a little bigger.

Very good.

If I'm correct, Role wants to connect the two continents in a similar way to how we reach Mercury lighthouse. I'm referring to the cave that we had to go through .... is this what really wanted Role?

It is a good way to make them look like 2 separate continents instead of one.

[dwkjohn]

here is what I will be adding to the map soon.

@teawater: that is about the size of the mountain range.

 Cool. And this is near the beginning of the game.  I imagine it would take some time to travel through that. Not much puzzling you can do without much psynergy available, right?  I imagine this would be a nice place to put some things where you would have to come back later in the game to get. [/quote]
That's whay I was thinking.

 By the way, when I asked for an estimate size of the mountainous map(s), I actually wanted the sizes of those rooms and not the size of it on the world map.

hehe... oops sorry. I don't got that.

[Teawater]

hehe... oops sorry. I don't got that.

I didn't think so, but I believe it is something that should be thought about. Which reminds me, we should probably create a Map topic on this? (We are already talking specifically about it too much here.)

[dwkjohn]

Yeah. This is world map not is it a mountain or a cave.

[MaxiPower]

Is there a FAQ or a introduction to what dimensional crisis is, I'm afraid I missed it.

[Salanewt]

Dimensional Crisis is the community hack. The first discussion topic (and sort of introduction) is here, but most could consider some things in that topic to be outdated. The second, current discussion is here, but it might be combined with the first one in a few weeks or so. I might be able to work on a faq page soon, but I will be a bit busy with a few things today.

Though, may I please request that all non-map questions be asked in the second discussion? It doesn't really matter, but it is why we have the topics.

[dwkjohn]

Not really. You kinda just have to go through the old main discussion topics and I think there's a "What is DCrisis" topic. Don't worry. I jumped in late and I just kinda figured it out as I went. I still learn new stuff I didn't know before. As long as. You contribute it will be fine.

[dwkjohn]

Ok. so. I had some time off today and I worked on the map. I have two attatchments. the first is what I just did. I am doing the trees later because, like the mountains, I have to edit them pixel be pixel. but trees are hardest. the second is for people to show their ideas for the mountain pass. just do a basic click/drag or copy/paste to show how you want it done I provided an example. I will combine the accepted ideas and clean them up. I am doing this because I am still confused as to what people are wanting so now you can show what you are saying.

[Hoopa]

...All I gotta say is props to you John. And to everyone else helping with this. Not really an idea person, so sorry if I seemed apathetic to the project. Still, when you need number crunching or logical reasoning, I'm there for you.

[Today]

Today at 19:05:48

Luna_blade: @.gba Nope. Where is it?

[Today]

Today at 18:00:23

Teawater: By the way, I was wondering, did anyone else notice the ".gba" ROM in the Downloads section?

[Today]

Today at 16:54:26

JamietheFlameUser: Well, that particular Briggs fight was from a long time ago. I haven't been working on my current hack the past few days because of other stuff.

[Today]

Today at 16:40:10

Luna_blade: @Saturos: Your english exams?

[Today]

Today at 16:33:40

Teawater: Can't remember exactly what shae of yellow it was, so not sure it would be too close or not.

[Today]

Today at 16:30:58

Teawater: @KoP: Wouldn't Shiny Gold be for the Sol Clan?

[Today]

Today at 15:37:37

Salanewt: Oh wait, tag doesn't work down here. But yeah, how is your hack going Jamie?

[Today]

Today at 15:37:00

Salanewt: [me] considers giving him the Sol Blade...

[Today]

Today at 15:36:00

Salanewt: Oh my. To be honest though, I'd be more likely to give Briggs stuff from later regions; him being a pirate from another continent and all.

[Today]

Today at 09:36:58

JamietheFlameUser: How not to design boss fights: give human-type bosses stats and equipment on par for what the Editor says their level is and what equipment is available where they're from. You get stuff like an actually scaled to level 21 Briggs with a Great Sword, Silver Plate, Silver Helm, Vambrace, and Leather Boots. God, that was BS.

[Today]

Today at 09:09:49

Saturos: Wow first part of exam is ower (in english) tomorow speaking part.

[Today]

Today at 07:11:35

JamietheFlameUser: Eh, I didn't know the exact chance of Curse screwing you over. Still, that 6% chance to fail to act at all could screw you over when it matters most. The obvious solution, of course, is to stick that armour on a character who doesn't do anything but spam attack moves anyway.

[Today]

Today at 07:10:52

leaf: ...assuming I'm remembering the chance of curse taking effect correctly as 25%

[Today]

Today at 07:09:50

leaf: in fact, you get two turns the majority of the time (~56%), and only completely fail to act ~6%, the remainder of the time getting one action

[Today]

Today at 07:07:49

leaf: I like that stealth armor buff. it wouldn't make sense to do that with the clerics ring available, but if you remove that, it's actually an interesting item. On average, you get ~1.5 turns per round. it's potentially very strong, but carries risks

[Today]

Today at 07:04:59

leaf: lol

[Today]

Today at 06:39:21

JamietheFlameUser: Reading the Venus Psynergy topic and 'lol'ing at Role's reaction to a very simple spell idea I'd had (and still think is awesome), where rock explodes out of the ground from a single point in a focused, cone-shaped burst. Role read me the riot act about not combining elements again. lol.

[Today]

Today at 06:17:58

JamietheFlameUser: Well, one thing I came up with that was actually potentially cool is a modification to the Stealth Armour. I gave it +1 turns, under the assumption that the Cleric's Ring would be removed. You might get 2 actions that round, or 1 action, or maybe no actions at all! RNG at its finest.

[Today]

Today at 06:15:32

Knight of Purgatory: Nice orange text kain. Maybe it should be a shiny gold

[Today]

Today at 06:03:40

leaf: I concur. There isn't much I'd consider worth salvaging from dc in terms of work done, but reading the old threads can be quite amusing

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